Repair or replace old Beefeater?

  • G'day everyone.

    I was checking out my old Beefeater 900 series gasser the other day and it looks like it needs a bit of loving, superficially at least.

    It's served me well for the past 15 odd years and I've replaced numerous parts over that time, but I'm wondering if it's time to replace the old girl with a new one?

    It will need 4 burners, 2 grills, at least 1 knob, 2 flame tamers/vaporisers at a minimum, and possibly the ignitor. I haven't checked the condition of the frame yet or the gas rail.

    The parts listed are over $200, which isn't a lot on the grand scheme of things, but I'm wondering if it's 'dead money' as it's a big proportion of the initial purchase price?

    So in anticipation of a new purchase, I've been doing a bit of searching and have come up with a few early contenders.

    A Weber Genesis and Napoleon Rogue (both in 4 burner). Beefeater have a few newer (than my current one) models, which are cheaper but the warranty isn't as good.

    The Weber and Napoleon are both at the upper reaches of my budget, but I'm willing to spend good coin (around $2k) for a good unit.

    The bbq will mostly be used for standard quick bbq/grill stuff (and when fire bans are in place) as I've got other options for slow/charcoal cooking.

    One criteria is that the grill must be able to hold 2 standard pizza stones next to each other, and it must be able to cope with pizza cooking temperatures regularly.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on these 2 units, or needed any other suggestions?

    Thanks for looking,

    Steve.

    Primo large oval, GMG Daniel Boone, Weber kettle, Weber Q3200, Weber Go Anywhere.

  • Have you considered a more dedicated pizza option? Even a komado. Just throwing ideas out there.



    Traeger - Weber Family Q - Ziggy Twin Burner - Charcoal Grill - Akorn Kamado - Hark Tri Fire - Jumbuck Pizza Oven - Go Anywhere - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Hibachi Grill - Anova Sous Vide x 2

  • Have you considered a more dedicated pizza option? Even a komado. Just throwing ideas out there.

    I currently have a Weber Kettle, Primo Oval, Weber GA and the GMG Daniel Boone, so I'm sorted for charcoal/wood cooking. I need the gasser for fire ban days and quick cooks though.

    Primo large oval, GMG Daniel Boone, Weber kettle, Weber Q3200, Weber Go Anywhere.

  • The Weber Genesis is a good BBQ but I'd struggle to spend that sort of money on what is still a 4 burner gas BBQ and I don't think any of them do great pizzas due to the restricitons in design with most of the heat below rather than above.

    I agree that we all should have a good gasser for a quick mid week cook but that can be managed with a unit well under $500.

    What are the other BBQ options you currently have Steve?

    Big Green Egg - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Weber Kettle - Maximus Pizza Oven - Dragon Hibachi - Ziggy Portable - baby kamado - Grillz 2 burner - Cobb BBQ - Converted Gas Bottle Spit - Charbroil Grill2go - Anova sous vide - Digi Q controller - plus Tip Top Temp - Smokeware cap - Grill Grates

  • I guess it down to how important is being able to cook pizzas during a fire ban? For $2K you can buy lots of good quality pizzas from the pizzeria.

    During a fire ban it's also a bit risky of somebody complaining of you roasting anything for hours unless you are doing it under a large cover enclosure. Even if you're complying with local rules at the time you still may end up with the callout fee from the fire department for a nuisance call if a fire truck is sent to your house.

    If not, a 4 burner hot plate is a good solution. Steaks, burgers, snags.

  • Thanks to everyone for their suggestions so far, I really appreciate it.

    Gumb I think I was posting at the same time as you were, my list of equipment is in my post about m above yours.

    12x7 the requirement for pizza cooking isn't necessarily only for fire bans, it's just sometimes quicker to do them on the gasser than wait for the kamado to get up to temp (yes, I'm lazy ;) ). I also haven't tried to do pizza on the Primo yet =O .

    Primo large oval, GMG Daniel Boone, Weber kettle, Weber Q3200, Weber Go Anywhere.

  • I never thought I'd move away from the 4 burner. I loved mine, was a sad day when I realised that relationship was over.

    Anyway, we were doing renovations and I needed a new bbq, so got a Ziggy double using Qantas points. I quickly became hooked on the lid down cooking. The twin wasn't big enough for us, so it became the camping bbq, so I got a family Q using points again. The Ziggy triple wasn't available at the time.

    Go and check out the Ziggy. Don't know if it will fit two pizza stones, maybe two slightly smaller ones, but it will definately get hot enough. It also uses a heap less gas.



    Traeger - Weber Family Q - Ziggy Twin Burner - Charcoal Grill - Akorn Kamado - Hark Tri Fire - Jumbuck Pizza Oven - Go Anywhere - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Hibachi Grill - Anova Sous Vide x 2

  • Gumb I think I was posting at the same time as you were, my list of equipment is in my post about m above yours.

    Mate, with your array of weapons I think all you need is a decent gasser but not the 4 burner type.

    I understand the need for a quick mid-week cook and that's why I recently bought a cheap twin burner and updated it with some Grill Grates. It works brilliantly.

    Gumb
    January 13, 2022 at 10:01 PM

    Wazza's idea of a Ziggy tripple is also a good one. My son has one and it's a good BBQ but I'm sure it wouldn't fit two pizzas. Maybe just cook one at a t ime ?

    Big Green Egg - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Weber Kettle - Maximus Pizza Oven - Dragon Hibachi - Ziggy Portable - baby kamado - Grillz 2 burner - Cobb BBQ - Converted Gas Bottle Spit - Charbroil Grill2go - Anova sous vide - Digi Q controller - plus Tip Top Temp - Smokeware cap - Grill Grates

  • I'm not a fan of gas pizza ovens. If you buy a pizza oven, then it has to be wood fired in my opinion and there are plenty of options around.

    Big Green Egg - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Weber Kettle - Maximus Pizza Oven - Dragon Hibachi - Ziggy Portable - baby kamado - Grillz 2 burner - Cobb BBQ - Converted Gas Bottle Spit - Charbroil Grill2go - Anova sous vide - Digi Q controller - plus Tip Top Temp - Smokeware cap - Grill Grates

  • I will say however, if I were still in the 4 burner world, the genesis is something I would crave, I just can't comment on how hot it will get.



    Traeger - Weber Family Q - Ziggy Twin Burner - Charcoal Grill - Akorn Kamado - Hark Tri Fire - Jumbuck Pizza Oven - Go Anywhere - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Hibachi Grill - Anova Sous Vide x 2

  • I will say however, if I were still in the 4 burner world, the genesis is something I would crave, I just can't comment on how hot it will get.

    I got in touch with Weber Australia and they confirmed that it would get up to pizza temps.

    Primo large oval, GMG Daniel Boone, Weber kettle, Weber Q3200, Weber Go Anywhere.

  • I got in touch with Weber Australia and they confirmed that it would get up to pizza temps.

    They say the same about their Q series and I personally feel they can be under powered at times.



    Traeger - Weber Family Q - Ziggy Twin Burner - Charcoal Grill - Akorn Kamado - Hark Tri Fire - Jumbuck Pizza Oven - Go Anywhere - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Hibachi Grill - Anova Sous Vide x 2

  • I'm with Waz and would take that with a dose of salt.

    Big Green Egg - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Weber Kettle - Maximus Pizza Oven - Dragon Hibachi - Ziggy Portable - baby kamado - Grillz 2 burner - Cobb BBQ - Converted Gas Bottle Spit - Charbroil Grill2go - Anova sous vide - Digi Q controller - plus Tip Top Temp - Smokeware cap - Grill Grates

  • They say the same about their Q series and I personally feel they can be under powered at times.

    From my (admittedly hazy) memory, I thought the baby and family Q's were ok, but the 200 was a bit anemic?

    Primo large oval, GMG Daniel Boone, Weber kettle, Weber Q3200, Weber Go Anywhere.

  • From my (admittedly hazy) memory, I thought the baby and family Q's were ok, but the 200 was a bit anemic?

    I've used all three of the Q series and have a family Q. I also have a twin ziggy and there is a triple ziggy up the farm I've used a lot. The ziggy's are definitely capable of getting hotter. Whether this translates to the Genesis as I said before I have no idea, just making the point about Weber's marketing.



    Traeger - Weber Family Q - Ziggy Twin Burner - Charcoal Grill - Akorn Kamado - Hark Tri Fire - Jumbuck Pizza Oven - Go Anywhere - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Hibachi Grill - Anova Sous Vide x 2

  • From my (admittedly hazy) memory, I thought the baby and family Q's were ok, but the 200 was a bit anemic?

    Correct. The mid range Q had a big problem getting hot enough. I sold mine and bought the Ziggy portable instead.

    Big Green Egg - Asmoke Pellet Grill - Weber Kettle - Maximus Pizza Oven - Dragon Hibachi - Ziggy Portable - baby kamado - Grillz 2 burner - Cobb BBQ - Converted Gas Bottle Spit - Charbroil Grill2go - Anova sous vide - Digi Q controller - plus Tip Top Temp - Smokeware cap - Grill Grates

  • I’d go a mid-range gasser as I’d struggle to justify a lot of money on a 4 burner.

    But I’m biased I haven’t used a gasser in years and consequently just sold my family Q to fund my Weber GA.

    Have you looked at the electric pizza appliance Captain raves about?

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