Inner Sydney environmently friendly suburb is now picking up the red bin every fortnight instead of weekly to help save the planet and reduce pollution. In real life this is going to cause problems of the putrid smell of rotting garbage and the creation of polluting gas and the explosion of the rat population. Large population of rats spreads disease.
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Inner Sydney environmently friendly suburb is now picking up the red bin every fortnight instead of weekly to help save the planet
Been that way in my suburb for a few years now. It does not work, especially with a big family.
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In real life this is going to cause problems of the putrid smell of rotting garbage
That should only happen if you're not using the bins properly. Rotting garbage goes in the green bin, which is picked up weekly.
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It does not work, especially with a big family.
Ask for a larger bin or an extra bin. Might cost a few extra bucks a year, but there's a cost to disposing of that much waste.
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Ask for a larger bin or an extra bin. Might cost a few extra bucks a year, but there's a cost to disposing of that much waste.I
If you’re living in inner city Sydney it pretty crowded and units/ apartments have set bin size / spaces.
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and units/ apartments have set bin size / spaces.
I'm sure a reasonable solution can be found. The kg amount collected every week is the same. Just green bin goes weekly and red fortnightly instead of the other way around.
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I'm sure a reasonable solution can be found. The kg amount collected every week is the same. Just green bin goes weekly and red fortnightly instead of the other way around.
Getting off topic now, so may have to move this.
Yes the red bin is weekly with maybe 3-4 small bags at most, wouldn't be a quarter full. Yellow recycling every 2nd week is overflowing, red bin every 2nd week is also chockers and stinks to high heaven from meat packaging. Drive around the suburbs and you see the same.
The calcs / justification for a weekly red bin to manage waste was clearly not calculated correctly. And yes I am paying more for the larger (normal size) red bin.
People of the local FB pages are still complaining about the system years after it's been rolled out. It does not work, I supplement with council bins in parks when I need too.
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G’day
In Brisbane.
The red bins never full. There’s just the two of us. But 3 to 4 chooks eat out any food scraps.
We have the oversized yellow. It’s the recycle . Even in a two person house it’s still gets full. I still keep the 10cent cans and bottles out of it.
Neighbours know the red and yellow are there for the overflow.
But the green bin for the green waste is always full each fortnight. Can’t seem to use all the garden off cuts. Grass ( not lawn ) gets mown without a grasscatcher better off not throwing away the nitrogen and having to fertilise the lawn each year.
And yes I put up with the bindis that’s what tongs were made for.
Regards dave
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What is the difference between grass and a lawn there?
Grass ( not lawn ) gets mown without a grasscatcher...
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Yes the red bin is weekly
Seems like every state is doing it differently.
In nsw:
Red bin = landfill (fortnightly)
Green bin = food organics and green waste which are turned to compost (weekly)
Yellow bin = cardboard and bottle recycling (fortnightly)
That is what the standard domestic waste charge pays for.
Fogo here is working quite well for the many areas already using it. The worst part of it is people getting it wrong and accidentally contaminating their green or yellow bins. Which has been a problem all along with waste because folks over here (me too) are not as disciplined as in Japan.
Ultimately the user pays system applies. You want more to go to landfill? No problem, just pay the extra dosh. The issue here is as usual: polluters want to be subsidised by the rest of the community.
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What is the difference between grass and a lawn there?
G’day
The next house has lawn. It gets mown twice weekly with a mower and catcher. Gets fertilised and weeded and watered with a sprinkler.
Mines just grass and gets a mow when it needs and the excess racked and into the chooks. No way it gets fertilised or extra water least it then needs to be mown more. My grass has dandelions and other weeds and it’s not just one type of grass.
The house next door you could play lawn bowls on it mine would suit BMX.
That’s the difference between lawn and grass.
Regards Dave
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G’day
The next house has lawn. It gets mown twice weekly with a mower and catcher. Gets fertilised and weeded and watered with a sprinkler.
Mines just grass and gets a mow when it needs and the excess racked and into the chooks. No way it gets fertilised or extra water least it then needs to be mown more. My grass has dandelions and other weeds and it’s not just one type of grass.
The house next door you could play lawn bowls on it mine would suit BMX.
That’s the difference between lawn and grass.
Regards Dave
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We have it easy in Oz when it comes to sorting garbage. Check out Japan and how clean the place is.
They don't tolerate what we call garbage collection in Australia.
https://matcha-jp.com/en/10149
A country that really knows how to keep things clean.
We have to remember a building over there may have 10,000 residents and a few blocks (Called Ward in Japan) may house up to 1 million people.
In Japan they are very wary of foreigns as they don't know how to dispose of garbage properly.
Yeah it's a PITA when it's freezing cold outside and you have to go out and carry the rubbish bags to the drop off point up the street, around the corner or whereaver the designated drop off point is. Unlike here where you have big plastic bins to fill up and get emptied, the average suburban street is barely enough to fit 1 car and you'd never get a truck around those corners lol. To a foreigner, it can be somewhat confusing because so many things in Japan are in packaging of some type of plastic but not all plastic goes where you think it goes. I let the Mrs sort it and I just carry it to where it's gotta go.
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Seems like every state is doing it differently.
In nsw:
Red bin = landfill (fortnightly)
Green bin = food organics and green waste which are turned to compost (weekly)
Yellow bin = cardboard and bottle recycling (fortnightly)
That is what the standard domestic waste charge pays for.
Same here
Ultimately the user pays system applies. You want more to go to landfill? No problem, just pay the extra dosh. The issue here is as usual: polluters want to be subsidised by the rest of the community.
This is where I fundamentally disagree. Councils have always been swings and roundabouts. My rates go to all sorts of things I don't use, but yet I pay knowing as my life goes through different phases my usage will change.
Except for waste which is a greenie issue, and we all know how the greenie left get the coverage. Under the FOGO system a couple or family of three does not have to change a thing, they can produce the same amount of waste but live with the new bin system. Yet a family of 7 has to pay more, but because we already buy in bulk we are producing less per capita than the couple. But suddenly waste is no longer a part of the swings and roundabouts, it's a tax on large families who as I have stated likely produce less per capita - the ultimate aim of FOGO, but still get taxed more.Our FOGO bin has very little in it every week, maybe an 8th full. The maths around what percentage of waste that will go to FOGO was wrong, it was another 'investigation' or report that came to a pre determined outcome to suit an ideology. Another example of the 'Yes Minister Survey'.
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Except for waste
Rubbish has a separate domestic waste charge and is not included in the rates (at least here). I wouldn't conflate the two.
Generally for much less than $10 per week (in cities) the amount of rubbish taken is quite good IMO. Not only the weekly collection, but also kerbside cleanups, oil, mattress and ewaste disposal, etc.
Unfortunately the costs for waste disposal have been rising rapidly like most other things. Governments don't live in a bubble and market forces still apply. I realise that these initiatives are aimed at encouraging the reduction of waste to landfill, but the alternative is much higher fees. The green component is far from the only driver. I appreciate that it's not ideal for everyone, but it seems fairer to me than higher fees across the board.
Taking it out of the government context perhaps this can provide more info on the market pressures at independent commercial level: https://jimsskipbins.com.au/me…ip-bin-hire-costs-rising/
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I think one of the problems is we produce so much rubbish nowadays. Once upon a time when rugby league players had a second job as garbos we could live with one bin (refer photo) which is a lot smaller than today’s bin collected once a week.
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G’day
The bin had mainly food scapes tins and bottles and ash from the incinerator in the back yard. And what was burnt in that. Basically anything that would burn and a few things that didn’t completely. The last of them were banned in the 90s and the smog and smoke haze that covered our cities dropped dramatically. Sundays as a kid were pretty bad. No one would wash and place clothing on the line. Better to live on a hill rather than a valley cause the smoke would settle in the low spots
Regards Dave
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Leaded fuel was used as was leaded paint and asbestos. Depending on how far back we want to go. DDT anyone?
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